▶💬GuemaraRav Pappa said a different answer: When the Sages instituted an ordinance that one’s four square cubits effect acquisiti…
Rav Pappa said a different answer: When the Sages instituted an ordinance that one’s four square cubits effect acquisition of property for him, that was in the world, i.e., on public land. But the Sages did not institute this mode of acquisition for him in a field belonging to an owner. And even though the Merciful One accorded a poor person certain rights in a landowner’s field during the distribution of pe’a, this mode of acquisition is not included in those rights; when the Merciful One accorded him rights it was specifically to walk in the field and to collect pe’a, but the Merciful One did not accord him the right that the field be considered his courtyard with regard to acquiring pe’a. Therefore, the mishna in tractate Pe’a does not contradict the statement of Reish Lakish.
As mentioned previously, Rava said that Rabbi Ya’akov bar Idi raises an objection to this from a mishna in Nezikin. The Gemara elaborates: The mishna here states that if one saw a found item and fell upon it, and another came and seized it, the one who seized it acquired it. And if you say that a person’s four square cubits effect acquisition of property for him everywhere, let his four square cubits effect acquisition of the found item for him.
The Gemara answers: Here we are dealing with a case where he did not say: I will acquire it. The Gemara asks: But if the Sages instituted an ordinance that one’s four square cubits effect acquisition of property for him, then even in a case when he did not say: I will acquire the item, what of it? The item should still be his. The Gemara answers: Since he fell upon it, he revealed his intention that it is satisfactory for him to acquire the item by falling on it, and it is not satisfactory for him to acquire the item through the ordinance concerning his four square cubits. Since he decided to forgo the mode of acquisition instituted by the Sages, he does not acquire the found item.
Rav Sheshet said a different answer: When the Sages instituted that one’s four square cubits effect acquisition of property for him, that was in a place like an alleyway, where the multitudes do not crowd, so the four square cubits surrounding a person can temporarily be considered his property and enable him to acquire an item; but the Sages did not institute this mode of acquisition in the public domain, where the multitudes crowd.
The Gemara asks: But doesn’t the wording of Reish Lakish’s statement indicate that there is no such limitation, as he says that the area of four square cubits surrounding a person effects acquisition of property for him everywhere? The indication is that this is true even in the public domain.
The Gemara answers: The word everywhere is not to be taken literally; it was stated to include even the sides of the public domain, areas that are adjacent to the public domain but not actually part of it. Since the multitudes do not crowd there, one who is standing there acquires an item that is in his four square cubits.
§ And Reish Lakish says another halakhain the name of Abba Kohen Bardela: A minor girl does not have the ability to acquire property by means of her courtyard, and she does not have the ability to acquire property by means of her four square cubits. And Rabbi Yoḥanan says in the name of Rabbi Yannai that she has the ability to acquire property by means of her courtyard, and she has the ability to acquire property by means of her four square cubits.
The Gemara asks: With regard to what do they disagree? The Gemara explains: One Sage, Rabbi Yannai, holds that placing an item in a courtyard is included as a valid means of acquisition due to the fact that it acts as her hand. Just as a minor girl has the ability to acquire property with her hand, she also has the ability to acquire property by means of her courtyard. And one Sage, Abba Kohen Bardela, holds that placing an item in a courtyard is included as a valid means of acquisition due to the option of acquiring property via agency; and just as a minor girl has no power of agency, as a minor cannot appoint an agent, she does not have the ability to acquire property by means of her courtyard either.
The Gemara asks: Is there anyone who says that a courtyard is included as a valid means of acquisition due to the option of acquiring property via agency? But isn’t it taught in a baraita: The verse states: “If the theft shall be found in his possession alive, whether it is an ox, or a donkey, or a sheep, he shall pay double” (Exodus 22:3)” From the term “in his possession [beyado],” I have derived only a case where the stolen item is found in his hand [yado]. From where do I derive that the same halakha applies if it is found on his roof, in his yard, or in his enclosure? The verse states the repetitive phrase “if the theft shall be found [himmatze timmatze],” to indicate that the same halakha applies in any case, i.e., in any location that the stolen item is found.
The Gemara explains: And if it enters your mind that a courtyard is included as a valid means of acquisition due to agency, if so, we have found a case where there is agency for a transgression, i.e., theft. But we maintain that there is no agency for transgression. If one sends an agent to violate a transgression on his behalf, the agent is liable for the transgression and is not considered to be acting on behalf of the one who sent him.
Ravina said: That baraita poses no problem, as where do we say that there is no agency for transgression? It is where the agent himself is subject to liability for transgression. Consequently, the agent is liable, not the one who sent him. But in the case of a courtyard, which is not subject to liability, its sender, i.e., its owner, is liable.
The Gemara asks: If that is so, then in a case of one who says to a woman or a slave: Go out and steal for me, is the one who sent them indeed liable, since they are not subject to liability? Married women and slaves have no property of their own from which one could collect payment.
The Gemara answers: You can say in response: A woman and a slave are not comparable to a courtyard, as they are subject to liability if they steal; and only now, in any event, they do not have the means to pay. This is as we learned in a mishna (Bava Kamma 87a) concerning a married woman or Canaanite slave who injured another person: If the woman becomes divorced or the slave becomes emancipated, and they then have their own money, they are liable to pay for the damage they inflicted. Evidently, although it is not possible to collect payment from them, they are liable for their actions.
Rav Samma stated a different resolution to the difficulty based on the baraita: Where do we say that there is no agency for transgression? It is specifically in a case where if the agent wants to execute his assignment he can do so, and if he wants to refrain from executing it he can also opt to not do it. But in the case of a courtyard, where one places items without its consent, its sender, i.e., its owner, is liable.
The Gemara asks: What is the practical difference between the answers of Ravina and Rav Samma? The practical difference between them is in the case of a priest who said to an Israelite: Go out and betroth a divorced woman for me. It is prohibited for a priest to betroth a divorcée, while it is permitted for an Israelite to do so. Alternatively, the difference is in the case of a man who said to a woman: Round the corners of the head of a minor boy for me. Rounding the corners of a man’s head, and a man having the corners of his head rounded, are prohibited in the verse: “You shall not round the corners of your head” (Leviticus 19:27), but they are prohibited only for men and not for women.
The Gemara explains: According to the formulation in which it was said that anywhere that if the agent wants to execute his assignment he can do so and if he wants to refrain from executing it he can opt to not do it the one who sent him is not liable for the transgression but rather the agent is liable, in these cases too, since if the agent wants to execute his assignment he can do so, and if he wants to refrain from executing it he can opt to not do it, the one who sent them is not liable. But according to the formulation in which it was said that wherever an agent is not subject to liability the one who sent him is liable, in these cases too, since the agents are not subject to liability, the one who sent them is liable.
The Gemara asks about the explanation of the opinion of Abba Kohen Bardela: But is there anyone who says that placing an item in a courtyard is not included as a valid means of acquisition due to the fact that it acts as her hand? But isn’t it taught in a baraita: From the verse: “And he writes her a scroll of severance, and he gives it in her hand” (Deuteronomy 24:1), I have derived only that a woman is divorced if her husband places the bill of divorce in her hand. From where is it derived that even if he places it on her roof, in her courtyard, or in her enclosure, she is divorced? The verse states: “And he gives,” indicating that she is divorced in any case. Apparently one’s courtyard is considered an extension of his hand with regard to acquiring property, in this case, the bill of divorce.
The Gemara answers: With regard to a bill of divorce everyone agrees that placing an item in a courtyard is included as a valid means of acquisition due to the fact that it acts as her hand. When they disagree, it is with regard to acquiring a found item that was discovered in her courtyard. One Sage, Rabbi Yannai, holds that
▶🇫🇷Résumé en françaisRav Pappa a dit une autre réponse : Lorsque les Sages ont institué une ordonnance selon laquelle les quatre coudées carr…
Rav Pappa a dit une autre réponse : Lorsque les Sages ont institué une ordonnance selon laquelle les quatre coudées carrées d’une personne effectuent l’acquisition de biens pour lui, cela était dans le monde, c’est-à-dire sur un terrain public. Mais les Sages n’ont pas institué ce mode d’acquisition pour lui dans un champ appartenant à un propriétaire. Et bien que le Miséricordieux ait accordé à une personne pauvre certains droits dans le champ d’un propriétaire lors de la distribution de pe’a, ce mode d’acquisition n’est pas inclus dans ces droits ; lorsque le Miséricordieux lui a accordé des droits, c’était spécifiquement pour marcher dans le champ et pour ramasser pe’a, mais le Miséricordieux ne lui a pas accordé le droit que le champ soit considéré comme sa cour en ce qui concerne l’acquisition de pe’a. Par conséquent, la mishna du traité Pe’a ne contredit pas la déclaration de Reish Lakish.
Comme mentionné précédemment, Rava a dit que Rabbi Ya’akov bar Idi soulève une objection à ce sujet à partir d’une mishna dans Nezikin. La Guemara développe : La mishna ici stipule que si quelqu’un a vu un objet trouvé et est tombé dessus, et qu’un autre est venu et l’a saisi, celui qui l’a saisi l’a acquis. Et si tu dis que les quatre coudées carrées d’une personne effectuent l’acquisition de biens pour lui partout, que ses quatre coudées carrées effectuent l’acquisition de l’objet trouvé pour lui.
La Guemara répond : Ici, nous avons affaire à un cas où il n’a pas dit : Je vais l’acquérir. La Guemara demande : Mais si les Sages ont institué une ordonnance selon laquelle les quatre coudées carrées d’une personne effectuent l’acquisition de biens pour lui, alors même dans un cas où il n’a pas dit : Je vais acquérir l’objet, qu’importe ? L’objet devrait quand même être à lui. La Guemara répond : Puisqu’il est tombé dessus, il a révélé son intention qu’il lui est satisfaisant d’acquérir l’objet en tombant dessus, et il ne lui est pas satisfaisant de l’acquérirpar l’ordonnance concernant ses quatre coudées carrées. Puisqu’il a décidé de renoncer au mode d’acquisition institué par les Sages, il n’acquiert pas l’objet trouvé.
Rav Sheshet a dit une autre réponse : Lorsque les Sages ont institué que les quatre coudées carrées d’une personne effectuent l’acquisition de biens pour lui, cela était dans un endroit comme une ruelle, où les foules ne se pressent pas, de sorte que les quatre coudées carrées entourant une personne peuvent temporairement être considérées comme sa propriété et lui permettre d’acquérir un objet ; mais les Sages n’ont pas institué ce mode d’acquisition dans le domaine public, où les foules se pressent.
La Guemara demande : Mais est-ce que la formulation de la déclaration de Reish Lakish n’indique pas qu’il n’y a pas une telle limitation, car il dit que la zone des quatre coudées carrées entourant une personne effectue l’acquisition de biens pour lui partout ? L’indication est que cela est vrai même dans le domaine public.
La Guemara répond : Le mot partout ne doit pas être pris au sens littéral ; il a été énoncé pour inclure même les côtés du domaine public, des zones adjacentes au domaine public mais n’en faisant pas réellement partie. Puisque les foules ne s’y pressent pas, celui qui s’y tient acquiert un objet qui se trouve dans ses quatre coudées carrées.
§ Et Reish Lakish dit une autre halakhaau nom d’Abba Kohen Bardela : Une jeune fille mineure n’a pas la capacité d’acquérir des biens par le biais de sa cour, et elle n’a pas la capacité d’acquérir des biens par le biais de ses quatre coudées carrées. Et Rabbi Yoḥanan dit au nom de Rabbi Yannai que elle a la capacité d’acquérir des biens par le biais de sa cour, et elle a la capacité d’acquérir des biens par le biais de ses quatre coudées carrées.
La Guemara demande : Sur quoi sont-ils en désaccord ? La Guemara explique : Un Sage, Rabbi Yannai, tient que placer un objet dans une cour est inclus comme un moyen valide d’acquisition en raison du fait qu’elle agit comme sa main. De même que une jeune fille mineure a la capacité d’acquérir des biens avec sa main, elle a aussi la capacité d’acquérir des biens par le biais de sa cour. Et un Sage, Abba Kohen Bardela, tient que placer un objet dans une cour est inclus comme un moyen valide d’acquisition en raison de l’option d’acquérir des biens via l’agence ; et de même que une jeune fille mineure n’a pas de pouvoir d’agence, car une mineure ne peut pas nommer un agent, elle n’a pas la capacité d’acquérir des biens par le biais de sa cour non plus.
La Guemara demande : Y a-t-il quelqu’un qui dise que une cour est incluse comme un moyen valide d’acquisition en raison de l’option d’acquérir des biens via l’agence ? Mais n’est-il pas enseigné dans une baraita : Le verset stipule : « Si le vol se trouve en sa possession vivant, que ce soit un bœuf, ou un âne, ou une brebis, il paiera le double » (Exode 22:3) » Du terme « en sa possession [beyado] », je n’ai dérivé que un cas où l’objet volé se trouve dans sa main [yado]. D’où dérive-je que la même halakha s’applique s’il se trouve sur son toit, dans sa cour, ou dans son enclos ? Le verset stipule la phrase répétitive « si le vol se trouve [himmatze timmatze] », pour indiquer que la même halakha s’applique dans tous les cas, c’est-à-dire dans tout endroit où l’objet volé se trouve.
La Guemara explique : Et s’il te vient à l’esprit que une cour est incluse comme un moyen valide d’acquisition en raison de l’agence, si c’est le cas, nous avons trouvé un cas où il y a agence pour une transgression, c’est-à-dire le vol. Mais nous maintenons qu’il n’y a pas d’agence pour la transgression. Si quelqu’un envoie un agent pour violer une transgression en son nom, l’ag
▶✝️Réponse ScripturaLa discussion sur la cour et le champ d'autrui rappelle que le pauvre a un droit réel sur la glanure, mais que ce droit …
La discussion sur la cour et le champ d'autrui rappelle que le pauvre a un droit réel sur la glanure, mais que ce droit s'exerce selon l'ordre voulu par Dieu (Deutéronome 24:19) ; Jésus, en laissant ses disciples arracher des épis le sabbat, montre que la miséricorde ordonne l'usage des biens (Matthieu 12:1-8).
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